[knjiznica-eventuse] Bergman

[Inja Cahun]

BTW ovo sam poslala samo Luciji :)

Hej curke,

ideja s ogeldalima je genijalna!!

Prilažem citate iz filmova i predlažem da vrtimo intervju s Bergmanom i s
Allenom o Bergmanu na onom velikom TV-u. Linkovi u nastavku..

I pitanje.. Ti njegovi filmovi su toliko lijepi i atmosferični bilo bi
šteta te crno-bijele scene iz filmova ne izložiti kako bismo bar malo
prenijele atmosferu s filmova u prostor izložbe. ne znam jel to moguće s
obzirom na pare i autroska prava..


Wody Allen interview on Ingmar Bergman u 2 djela s isječcima iz fimova i s
engleskim:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=npHqAO3hj54

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_ev-c4rINA

Genijalni intervju s Ingmarom Bergmanom s komentarima novinara i suradnika:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CLVLKQ8Nh_A



Citati:

Through a glass darkly:

David: "I don't know whether love is proof of God's existence, or if love
is God.
Minus: For you, love and God are the same?
David: I rest my emptiness and my dirty hopelessness in that thought."

Persona:

Doctor: "...But you can refuse to move, refuse to talk, so that you don't
have to lie. You can shut yourself in. Then you needn't play any parts or
make wrong gestures. Or so you thought. But reality is diabolical. Your
hiding place isn't watertight. Life trickles in from the outside, and
you're forced to react. No one asks if it is true or false, if you're
genuine or just a sham. Such things matter only in the theatre, and hardly
there either. I understand why you don't speak, why you don't move, why
you've created a part for yourself out of apathy..."

Alma: "Is it really important not to lie, to speak so that everything
rings true? Can one live without lying and quibbling and making excuses?
Isn't it better to be lazy and lax and deceitful? Perhaps you even improve
by staying as you are."

Wild strawberries:

"Isak: Now take the cigar. Cigars are an expression of the fundamental
idea of smoking. A stimulant and a relaxation. A manly vice.
Marianne: And what vices may a woman have?
Isak: Crying, bearing children, and gossiping about the neighbours.
Marianne: How old are you, Uncle Isak?
Isak: Why do you ask?
Marianne: No reason, really. Why?
Isak: I know why you're asking.
Marianne: If you say so"

Cousin Sara: "Have you looked in the mirror, Isak? You haven't. Then I'll
show you what you look like.  You're a worried old man who's soon going to
die."
 ...
Cousin Sara: "That hurt your feelings, alfetr all."
Isak: "No, it didn't hurt.
Cousin Sara: "Yes, it hurt because you can't bear the truth."
...
Cousin Sara:"Look in the mirror again. No, dont turn away."

The Seventh seal:
Block: "I want knowledge. Not belief. Not surmise. But knowledge. I want
God to put out His hand, show His face, speak to me."
Priest/Death: "But He is silent."
Block: "I cry to Him in the dark, but there seems to be no one there."
Priest/Death: "Perhaps there is no one there."
Block: "Then life is a senseless terror. No man can live with Death and
know that everything is nothing."
Priest/Death: "Most people think neither of Death nor nothingness."
Block: "Until they stand on the edge of life and see the Darkness."
Priest/Death: "Ah, that day."


> Odlične sličke i svakako citati samog Bergmana :)
>
>> https://www.brainyquote.com/authors/ingmar_bergman
>>
>> https://images.search.yahoo.com/search/images;_ylt=AwrE19erN_Ba2CMAUdVXNyoA;_ylu=X3oDMTByMjB0aG5zBGNvbG8DYmYxBHBvcwMxBHZ0aWQDBHNlYwNzYw--?p=ingmar+bergman+movie+quotes#id=105&iurl=https%3A%2F%2Fs-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com%2F736x%2F3a%2Ff0%2F4d%2F3af04d93ecd21682d92c28369756086d.jpg&action=close
>>
>> ovih slika i citata ima puno! A i svaki je dobar, mislim da ćemo imati
>> hrpu
>> materijala.
>>
>> Ivana Kukić, dipl.knjiž.
>> Knjižnica Filozofskog fakulteta,
>> zbirka za psihologiju
>>
>> Tel: 01/409-2246
>> mail: ikukic at ffzg.hr
>>
>> 2018-05-06 9:49 GMT+02:00 <lklanac at ffzg.hr>:
>>
>>> > super, ja se predvecer bacam na citate.ugodna nedjelja svima :)
>>>
>>> Odlično, Persona je sigurna, pitanje je samo hoće li ići Sedmi pečat
>>> ili
>>> > Divlje jagode. Onda ću ja pogledati onaj dokumentarc koji ide zadnji
>>> > tjedan.
>>> > V.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >  Ivana je uzela Sedmi pečat, Irena Personu, ja Divlje jagode.
>>> Odlučile
>>> smo
>>> >> se za ove koji će se (možda) prikazivati!
>>> >>
>>> >> sub, 5. svi 2018. 08:14 Visnja Novosel <visnja.novosel at ffzg.hr> je
>>> >> napisao:
>>> >>
>>> >>> Hej,
>>> >>> hoćete javiti tko gleda koji film, ja imam doma sve koje imamo u
>>> >>> knjižnici
>>> >>> pa mogu bilo koji.
>>> >>> Višnja
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>  ja onda krivo skužila :D
>>> >>> >
>>> >>> >  ma ja sam mislila jedan tekst tekst kraj okvira (ne u okvire) da
>>> >>> stoji
>>> >>> da
>>> >>> >> ih objasnimo, da ne poslažemo samo okvire okolo pa da se oni
>>> pitaju
>>> >>> šta
>>> >>> >> to
>>> >>> >> predstavlja.
>>> >>> >>
>>> >>> >> Dana 4. svibnja 2018. u 18:01 <lklanac at ffzg.hr> je napisao/la:
>>> >>> >>
>>> >>> >>> > ja možda čak ne bih tekstove tamo nego radije uz izložbu.
>>> nekak
>>> >>> imam
>>> >>> >>> osjećaj da se neće baš zaustavljati i gledati gore i čitati
>>> >>> tekstove.
>>> >>> >>> radije neke citate u okvire?
>>> >>> >>>
>>> >>> >>>  Da, da! Okviri koji vise s prvog kata u prizemlje! :) I onda
>>> mogu
>>> >>> >>> stati
>>> >>> >>> u
>>> >>> >>> > njih, s bilo koje strane - okviri predstavljaju zrcala,
>>> kameru,
>>> >>> >>> svašta
>>> >>> >>> se
>>> >>> >>> > tu može vidjeti i dodati :)
>>> >>> >>> > I na sajlu nekoliko i tamo možda neki tekst vezan uu
>>> Bergmana,
>>> >>> >>> zrcala,
>>> >>> >>> > okvire.. :) odlično!
>>> >>> >>> >
>>> >>> >>> > Dana 4. svibnja 2018. u 17:38 Elvira Gotal <egotal at ffzg.hr>
>>> je
>>> >>> >>> napisao/la:
>>> >>> >>> >
>>> >>> >>> >> >>> ideja okvira bi se mogla razraditi detaljnije. i
>>> simbolično.
>>> >>> kao
>>> >>> >>> >> okviri, prizori, ogledala, ekrani. okviri bi mogli visjeti s
>>> >>> prvog
>>> >>> >>> >> kata i sa sajla i di god, u okvirima se mogu slikati i
>>> gledati
>>> >>> jedni
>>> >>> >>> >> druge. iskrivljavati ili uokvirivati stvarnost. na okvirima
>>> >>> mogle
>>> >>> bi
>>> >>> >>> >> biti bergmanove rečenice. iz njegove autobiografije. okvire
>>> lako
>>> >>> >>> >> izrežemo iz raznoraznih starih postera......
>>> >>> >>> >>
>>> >>> >>> >> npr. Ritam mojih filmova zamišljan je već u scenariju, za
>>> >>> pisaćim
>>> >>> >>> >> stolom,
>>> >>> >>> >> a rađao se pred kamerama. Svaka improvizacija meni je
>>> strana.
>>> >>> ili
>>> >>> >>> >>
>>> >>> >>> >> Stvorio sam u sebi neku vanjsku osobnost koja je imala vrlo
>>> malo
>>> >>> >>> veze
>>> >>> >>> s
>>> >>> >>> >> mojim „istinskim“ ja.
>>> >>> >>> >>
>>> >>> >>> >> meni se jako sviđa problematika zrcala... možda bi mogli
>>> >>> posložiti
>>> >>> >>> samo
>>> >>> >>> >> > okvire. kao simbolika zrcala i odraza....
>>> >>> >>> >> >
>>> >>> >>> >> >
>>> >>> >>> >> >
>>> >>> >>> >> >  ko pobijedi u šahu,  dobiva sat vremena druženja s
>>> lubanjom u
>>> >>> >>> samici.
>>> >>> >>> >> >>
>>> >>> >>> >> >> uh.
>>> >>> >>> >> >>
>>> >>> >>> >> >>
>>> >>> >>> >> >>
>>> >>> >>> >> >> super mi je ovo za šah!!
>>> >>> >>> >> >>>  ono što je meni palo na pamet - iako ne znam koliko bi
>>> se
>>> >>> baš
>>> >>> >>> >> >>> uklopilo
>>> >>> >>> >> >>> da i sad uzmemo "blind date", tj. neke knjige zapakiramo
>>> u
>>> >>> pak
>>> >>> >>> papir
>>> >>> >>> >> i
>>> >>> >>> >> >>> na
>>> >>> >>> >> >>> njih stavimo neke njegove citate i zalijepimo ili
>>> nacrtamo
>>> >>> >>> motive.
>>> >>> >>> >> >>>
>>> >>> >>> >> >>>
>>> >>> >>> >> >>> bravo!
>>> >>> >>> >> >>>>
>>> >>> >>> >> >>>>
>>> >>> >>> >> >>>>
>>> >>> >>> >> >>>> uvijek je dobro imati inicijalni sastanak J onda ideje
>>> samo
>>> >>> >>> pocnu
>>> >>> >>> >> >>>> kuljati
>>> >>> >>> >> >>>> J
>>> >>> >>> >> >>>>
>>> >>> >>> >> >>>>
>>> >>> >>> >> >>>>
>>> >>> >>> >> >>>> From: Eventuse <eventuse-bounces at mjesec.ffzg.hr> On
>>> Behalf
>>> >>> Of
>>> >>> >>> >> Višnja
>>> >>> >>> >> >>>> Novosel
>>> >>> >>> >> >>>> Sent: Friday, May 4, 2018 3:43 PM
>>> >>> >>> >> >>>> To: eventuse at mjesec.ffzg.hr
>>> >>> >>> >> >>>> Subject: Re: [knjiznica-eventuse] Bergman
>>> >>> >>> >> >>>>
>>> >>> >>> >> >>>>
>>> >>> >>> >> >>>>
>>> >>> >>> >> >>>> Imam još jednu ideju ? da zovemo šahiste na faksu i
>>> >>> >>> organiziramo
>>> >>> >>> >> neku
>>> >>> >>> >> >>>> prezentaciju šaha? U prizemlju?
>>> >>> >>> >> >>>>
>>> >>> >>> >> >>>> :-D
>>> >>> >>> >> >>>>
>>> >>> >>> >> >>>> Tek su mi počele padati ideje na pamet
>>> >>> >>> >> >>>>
>>> >>> >>> >> >>>>
>>> >>> >>> >> >>>>
>>> >>> >>> >> >>>> From: Eventuse <eventuse-bounces at mjesec.ffzg.hr
>>> >>> >>> >> >>>> <mailto:eventuse-bounces at mjesec.ffzg.hr> > On Behalf Of
>>> >>> >>> Katarina
>>> >>> >>> >> >>>> Starčević
>>> >>> >>> >> >>>> Sent: Friday, May 4, 2018 3:25 PM
>>> >>> >>> >> >>>> To: eventuse at mjesec.ffzg.hr
>>> >>> <mailto:eventuse at mjesec.ffzg.hr>
>>> >>> >>> >> >>>> Subject: [knjiznica-eventuse] Bergman
>>> >>> >>> >> >>>>
>>> >>> >>> >> >>>>
>>> >>> >>> >> >>>>
>>> >>> >>> >> >>>> Hej, hej!
>>> >>> >>> >> >>>>
>>> >>> >>> >> >>>>
>>> >>> >>> >> >>>>
>>> >>> >>> >> >>>> Malo kopala po netu i naišla na slike iz "Divljih
>>> jagoda" i
>>> >>> na
>>> >>> >>> >> >>>> nekoliko
>>> >>> >>> >> >>>> njih žena drži ogledalo - mogli bismo i ogledalce
>>> staviti u
>>> >>> >>> jednu
>>> >>> >>> >> od
>>> >>> >>> >> >>>> vitrina :)
>>> >>> >>> >> >>>>
>>> >>> >>> >> >>>>
>>> >>> >>> >> >>>>
>>> >>> >>> >> >>>> A onda sam otišla i korak dalje i vidjela cijelu
>>> >>> problematiku
>>> >>> >>> >> zrcala
>>> >>> >>> >> >>>> vezanu uz Bergmana
>>> >>> >>> >> >>>> (http://www.ingmarbergman.se/en/universe/behind-mirror)
>>> >>> >>> >> >>>> pa bacam bubu u uho, možda nekom još nešto padne vezano
>>> uz
>>> >>> >>> >> zrcala...
>>> >>> >>> >> >>>>
>>> >>> >>> >> >>>>
>>> >>> >>> >> >>>>
>>> >>> >>> >> >>>> Pozdrav!
>>> >>> >>> >> >>>>
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