[knjiznica-eventuse] Bergman

Tue May 8 09:24:51 CEST 2018

>> pronašli ste odlične stvari; sviđa mi se sve, nekako zbog sigurnosti
sam za ovaj Lucijin prijedlog filmića.....  imamo zaista dovoljno
materijala za iskoristiti.... Sad to samo treba dobro organizirati i
prezentirati... možda filmove u dio vitrina, s pripadajućim citatima,
scenama i svime vezanim uz filmove... čak na rubove vitrina možemo
zalijepiti te scene iz filmova.... književnost na drugu stranu s
pripadajucim citatima, a njega i autobiografske citate u okvire i
ogledala razbacano....  ???


Inja, ovo je diiiiivno :)
> što se tiče autorskih prava, za NOć knjige sam gledala da je CC - creative
> commons reuse allowed jer me bilo malo frka što se tiče standard youtube
> licence pa možda da tako filtriramo, ali svakako možemo još pogledati jer
> su ovi intervjui odlični.
> našla sam ovaj filmić
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YymZV83wPBk
>
> koji istražuje temu snova u filmovima na primjeru Bergmanovih Divljih
> jagoda, a ima cc licencu.
>
> i prilažem citate koje sam našla, a da su mi se činili fora. svi su kratki
> dosta, dva su o filmu i ima jedan gdje se spominje zrcalo :D
>
>
> “Film as dream, film as music. No art passes our conscience in the
> way film does, and goes directly to our feelings, deep down into the dark
> rooms of our souls.”
>
> “I want to confess as best I can, but my heart is void. The void is
> a mirror. I see my face and feel loathing and horror. My indifference to
> man has shut me out. I live now in a world of ghosts, a prisoner in my
> dreams.”
> ― Ingmar Bergman, The Seventh Seal
>
> “To feel. To trust the feeling. I long for that”
> ― Ingmar Bergman, Face to Face: A Film
>
> “We make each other alive; it doesn't make a difference if it
> hurts.”
> ― Ingmar Bergman
>
> “Everyone likes happiness, no one likes pain. But you can't have a
> rainbow without a little rain.”
> ― Ingmar Bergman
>
> “Reality is perhaps not at all what I imagine. Perhaps it doesn't
> exist, in fact. Perhaps it only exists as a longing.”
> ― Ingmar Bergman, Face to Face: A Film
>
> “No form of art goes beyond ordinary consciousness as film does,
> straight to our emotions, deep into the twilight room of the soul.”
> ― Ingmar Bergman
>
>
>
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>
>
> BTW ovo sam poslala samo Luciji :)
>>
>> Hej curke,
>>
>> ideja s ogeldalima je genijalna!!
>>
>> Prilažem citate iz filmova i predlažem da vrtimo intervju s Bergmanom i
>> s
>> Allenom o Bergmanu na onom velikom TV-u. Linkovi u nastavku..
>>
>> I pitanje.. Ti njegovi filmovi su toliko lijepi i atmosferični bilo bi
>> šteta te crno-bijele scene iz filmova ne izložiti kako bismo bar malo
>> prenijele atmosferu s filmova u prostor izložbe. ne znam jel to moguće s
>> obzirom na pare i autroska prava..
>>
>>
>> Wody Allen interview on Ingmar Bergman u 2 djela s isječcima iz fimova i
>> s
>> engleskim:
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=npHqAO3hj54
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_ev-c4rINA
>>
>> Genijalni intervju s Ingmarom Bergmanom s komentarima novinara i
>> suradnika:
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CLVLKQ8Nh_A
>>
>>
>>
>> Citati:
>>
>> Through a glass darkly:
>>
>> David: "I don't know whether love is proof of God's existence, or if
>> love
>> is God.
>> Minus: For you, love and God are the same?
>> David: I rest my emptiness and my dirty hopelessness in that thought."
>>
>> Persona:
>>
>> Doctor: "...But you can refuse to move, refuse to talk, so that you
>> don't
>> have to lie. You can shut yourself in. Then you needn't play any parts
>> or
>> make wrong gestures. Or so you thought. But reality is diabolical. Your
>> hiding place isn't watertight. Life trickles in from the outside, and
>> you're forced to react. No one asks if it is true or false, if you're
>> genuine or just a sham. Such things matter only in the theatre, and
>> hardly
>> there either. I understand why you don't speak, why you don't move, why
>> you've created a part for yourself out of apathy..."
>>
>> Alma: "Is it really important not to lie, to speak so that everything
>> rings true? Can one live without lying and quibbling and making excuses?
>> Isn't it better to be lazy and lax and deceitful? Perhaps you even
>> improve
>> by staying as you are."
>>
>> Wild strawberries:
>>
>> "Isak: Now take the cigar. Cigars are an expression of the fundamental
>> idea of smoking. A stimulant and a relaxation. A manly vice.
>> Marianne: And what vices may a woman have?
>> Isak: Crying, bearing children, and gossiping about the neighbours.
>> Marianne: How old are you, Uncle Isak?
>> Isak: Why do you ask?
>> Marianne: No reason, really. Why?
>> Isak: I know why you're asking.
>> Marianne: If you say so"
>>
>> Cousin Sara: "Have you looked in the mirror, Isak? You haven't. Then
>> I'll
>> show you what you look like.  You're a worried old man who's soon going
>> to
>> die."
>>  ...
>> Cousin Sara: "That hurt your feelings, alfetr all."
>> Isak: "No, it didn't hurt.
>> Cousin Sara: "Yes, it hurt because you can't bear the truth."
>> ...
>> Cousin Sara:"Look in the mirror again. No, dont turn away."
>>
>> The Seventh seal:
>> Block: "I want knowledge. Not belief. Not surmise. But knowledge. I want
>> God to put out His hand, show His face, speak to me."
>> Priest/Death: "But He is silent."
>> Block: "I cry to Him in the dark, but there seems to be no one there."
>> Priest/Death: "Perhaps there is no one there."
>> Block: "Then life is a senseless terror. No man can live with Death and
>> know that everything is nothing."
>> Priest/Death: "Most people think neither of Death nor nothingness."
>> Block: "Until they stand on the edge of life and see the Darkness."
>> Priest/Death: "Ah, that day."
>>
>>
>>> Odlične sličke i svakako citati samog Bergmana :)
>>>
>>>> https://www.brainyquote.com/authors/ingmar_bergman
>>>>
>>>> https://images.search.yahoo.com/search/images;_ylt=AwrE19erN_Ba2CMAUdVXNyoA;_ylu=X3oDMTByMjB0aG5zBGNvbG8DYmYxBHBvcwMxBHZ0aWQDBHNlYwNzYw--?p=ingmar+bergman+movie+quotes#id=105&iurl=https%3A%2F%2Fs-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com%2F736x%2F3a%2Ff0%2F4d%2F3af04d93ecd21682d92c28369756086d.jpg&action=close
>>>>
>>>> ovih slika i citata ima puno! A i svaki je dobar, mislim da ćemo imati
>>>> hrpu
>>>> materijala.
>>>>
>>>> Ivana Kukić, dipl.knjiž.
>>>> Knjižnica Filozofskog fakulteta,
>>>> zbirka za psihologiju
>>>>
>>>> Tel: 01/409-2246
>>>> mail: ikukic at ffzg.hr
>>>>
>>>> 2018-05-06 9:49 GMT+02:00 <lklanac at ffzg.hr>:
>>>>
>>>>> > super, ja se predvecer bacam na citate.ugodna nedjelja svima :)
>>>>>
>>>>> Odlično, Persona je sigurna, pitanje je samo hoće li ići Sedmi pečat
>>>>> ili
>>>>> > Divlje jagode. Onda ću ja pogledati onaj dokumentarc koji ide
>>>>> zadnji
>>>>> > tjedan.
>>>>> > V.
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >  Ivana je uzela Sedmi pečat, Irena Personu, ja Divlje jagode.
>>>>> Odlučile
>>>>> smo
>>>>> >> se za ove koji će se (možda) prikazivati!
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> sub, 5. svi 2018. 08:14 Visnja Novosel <visnja.novosel at ffzg.hr> je
>>>>> >> napisao:
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>> Hej,
>>>>> >>> hoćete javiti tko gleda koji film, ja imam doma sve koje imamo u
>>>>> >>> knjižnici
>>>>> >>> pa mogu bilo koji.
>>>>> >>> Višnja
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>>  ja onda krivo skužila :D
>>>>> >>> >
>>>>> >>> >  ma ja sam mislila jedan tekst tekst kraj okvira (ne u okvire)
>>>>> da
>>>>> >>> stoji
>>>>> >>> da
>>>>> >>> >> ih objasnimo, da ne poslažemo samo okvire okolo pa da se oni
>>>>> pitaju
>>>>> >>> šta
>>>>> >>> >> to
>>>>> >>> >> predstavlja.
>>>>> >>> >>
>>>>> >>> >> Dana 4. svibnja 2018. u 18:01 <lklanac at ffzg.hr> je napisao/la:
>>>>> >>> >>
>>>>> >>> >>> > ja možda čak ne bih tekstove tamo nego radije uz izložbu.
>>>>> nekak
>>>>> >>> imam
>>>>> >>> >>> osjećaj da se neće baš zaustavljati i gledati gore i čitati
>>>>> >>> tekstove.
>>>>> >>> >>> radije neke citate u okvire?
>>>>> >>> >>>
>>>>> >>> >>>  Da, da! Okviri koji vise s prvog kata u prizemlje! :) I onda
>>>>> mogu
>>>>> >>> >>> stati
>>>>> >>> >>> u
>>>>> >>> >>> > njih, s bilo koje strane - okviri predstavljaju zrcala,
>>>>> kameru,
>>>>> >>> >>> svašta
>>>>> >>> >>> se
>>>>> >>> >>> > tu može vidjeti i dodati :)
>>>>> >>> >>> > I na sajlu nekoliko i tamo možda neki tekst vezan uu
>>>>> Bergmana,
>>>>> >>> >>> zrcala,
>>>>> >>> >>> > okvire.. :) odlično!
>>>>> >>> >>> >
>>>>> >>> >>> > Dana 4. svibnja 2018. u 17:38 Elvira Gotal <egotal at ffzg.hr>
>>>>> je
>>>>> >>> >>> napisao/la:
>>>>> >>> >>> >
>>>>> >>> >>> >> >>> ideja okvira bi se mogla razraditi detaljnije. i
>>>>> simbolično.
>>>>> >>> kao
>>>>> >>> >>> >> okviri, prizori, ogledala, ekrani. okviri bi mogli visjeti
>>>>> s
>>>>> >>> prvog
>>>>> >>> >>> >> kata i sa sajla i di god, u okvirima se mogu slikati i
>>>>> gledati
>>>>> >>> jedni
>>>>> >>> >>> >> druge. iskrivljavati ili uokvirivati stvarnost. na
>>>>> okvirima
>>>>> >>> mogle
>>>>> >>> bi
>>>>> >>> >>> >> biti bergmanove rečenice. iz njegove autobiografije.
>>>>> okvire
>>>>> lako
>>>>> >>> >>> >> izrežemo iz raznoraznih starih postera......
>>>>> >>> >>> >>
>>>>> >>> >>> >> npr. Ritam mojih filmova zamišljan je već u scenariju, za
>>>>> >>> pisaćim
>>>>> >>> >>> >> stolom,
>>>>> >>> >>> >> a rađao se pred kamerama. Svaka improvizacija meni je
>>>>> strana.
>>>>> >>> ili
>>>>> >>> >>> >>
>>>>> >>> >>> >> Stvorio sam u sebi neku vanjsku osobnost koja je imala
>>>>> vrlo
>>>>> malo
>>>>> >>> >>> veze
>>>>> >>> >>> s
>>>>> >>> >>> >> mojim „istinskim“ ja.
>>>>> >>> >>> >>
>>>>> >>> >>> >> meni se jako sviđa problematika zrcala... možda bi mogli
>>>>> >>> posložiti
>>>>> >>> >>> samo
>>>>> >>> >>> >> > okvire. kao simbolika zrcala i odraza....
>>>>> >>> >>> >> >
>>>>> >>> >>> >> >
>>>>> >>> >>> >> >
>>>>> >>> >>> >> >  ko pobijedi u šahu,  dobiva sat vremena druženja s
>>>>> lubanjom u
>>>>> >>> >>> samici.
>>>>> >>> >>> >> >>
>>>>> >>> >>> >> >> uh.
>>>>> >>> >>> >> >>
>>>>> >>> >>> >> >>
>>>>> >>> >>> >> >>
>>>>> >>> >>> >> >> super mi je ovo za šah!!
>>>>> >>> >>> >> >>>  ono što je meni palo na pamet - iako ne znam koliko
>>>>> bi
>>>>> se
>>>>> >>> baš
>>>>> >>> >>> >> >>> uklopilo
>>>>> >>> >>> >> >>> da i sad uzmemo "blind date", tj. neke knjige
>>>>> zapakiramo
>>>>> u
>>>>> >>> pak
>>>>> >>> >>> papir
>>>>> >>> >>> >> i
>>>>> >>> >>> >> >>> na
>>>>> >>> >>> >> >>> njih stavimo neke njegove citate i zalijepimo ili
>>>>> nacrtamo
>>>>> >>> >>> motive.
>>>>> >>> >>> >> >>>
>>>>> >>> >>> >> >>>
>>>>> >>> >>> >> >>> bravo!
>>>>> >>> >>> >> >>>>
>>>>> >>> >>> >> >>>>
>>>>> >>> >>> >> >>>>
>>>>> >>> >>> >> >>>> uvijek je dobro imati inicijalni sastanak J onda
>>>>> ideje
>>>>> samo
>>>>> >>> >>> pocnu
>>>>> >>> >>> >> >>>> kuljati
>>>>> >>> >>> >> >>>> J
>>>>> >>> >>> >> >>>>
>>>>> >>> >>> >> >>>>
>>>>> >>> >>> >> >>>>
>>>>> >>> >>> >> >>>> From: Eventuse <eventuse-bounces at mjesec.ffzg.hr> On
>>>>> Behalf
>>>>> >>> Of
>>>>> >>> >>> >> Višnja
>>>>> >>> >>> >> >>>> Novosel
>>>>> >>> >>> >> >>>> Sent: Friday, May 4, 2018 3:43 PM
>>>>> >>> >>> >> >>>> To: eventuse at mjesec.ffzg.hr
>>>>> >>> >>> >> >>>> Subject: Re: [knjiznica-eventuse] Bergman
>>>>> >>> >>> >> >>>>
>>>>> >>> >>> >> >>>>
>>>>> >>> >>> >> >>>>
>>>>> >>> >>> >> >>>> Imam još jednu ideju ? da zovemo šahiste na faksu i
>>>>> >>> >>> organiziramo
>>>>> >>> >>> >> neku
>>>>> >>> >>> >> >>>> prezentaciju šaha? U prizemlju?
>>>>> >>> >>> >> >>>>
>>>>> >>> >>> >> >>>> :-D
>>>>> >>> >>> >> >>>>
>>>>> >>> >>> >> >>>> Tek su mi počele padati ideje na pamet
>>>>> >>> >>> >> >>>>
>>>>> >>> >>> >> >>>>
>>>>> >>> >>> >> >>>>
>>>>> >>> >>> >> >>>> From: Eventuse <eventuse-bounces at mjesec.ffzg.hr
>>>>> >>> >>> >> >>>> <mailto:eventuse-bounces at mjesec.ffzg.hr> > On Behalf
>>>>> Of
>>>>> >>> >>> Katarina
>>>>> >>> >>> >> >>>> Starčević
>>>>> >>> >>> >> >>>> Sent: Friday, May 4, 2018 3:25 PM
>>>>> >>> >>> >> >>>> To: eventuse at mjesec.ffzg.hr
>>>>> >>> <mailto:eventuse at mjesec.ffzg.hr>
>>>>> >>> >>> >> >>>> Subject: [knjiznica-eventuse] Bergman
>>>>> >>> >>> >> >>>>
>>>>> >>> >>> >> >>>>
>>>>> >>> >>> >> >>>>
>>>>> >>> >>> >> >>>> Hej, hej!
>>>>> >>> >>> >> >>>>
>>>>> >>> >>> >> >>>>
>>>>> >>> >>> >> >>>>
>>>>> >>> >>> >> >>>> Malo kopala po netu i naišla na slike iz "Divljih
>>>>> jagoda" i
>>>>> >>> na
>>>>> >>> >>> >> >>>> nekoliko
>>>>> >>> >>> >> >>>> njih žena drži ogledalo - mogli bismo i ogledalce
>>>>> staviti u
>>>>> >>> >>> jednu
>>>>> >>> >>> >> od
>>>>> >>> >>> >> >>>> vitrina :)
>>>>> >>> >>> >> >>>>
>>>>> >>> >>> >> >>>>
>>>>> >>> >>> >> >>>>
>>>>> >>> >>> >> >>>> A onda sam otišla i korak dalje i vidjela cijelu
>>>>> >>> problematiku
>>>>> >>> >>> >> zrcala
>>>>> >>> >>> >> >>>> vezanu uz Bergmana
>>>>> >>> >>> >> >>>> (http://www.ingmarbergman.se/en/universe/behind-mirror)
>>>>> >>> >>> >> >>>> pa bacam bubu u uho, možda nekom još nešto padne
>>>>> vezano
>>>>> uz
>>>>> >>> >>> >> zrcala...
>>>>> >>> >>> >> >>>>
>>>>> >>> >>> >> >>>>
>>>>> >>> >>> >> >>>>
>>>>> >>> >>> >> >>>> Pozdrav!
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