[knjiznica-eventuse] Bergman

Thu May 10 14:52:10 CEST 2018

ja bum doma vidla pa ak imam donesem sutra to i izolirku srebrnu za kosu :)

> na faksu nemamo drveni štil od metle
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Eventuse <eventuse-bounces at mjesec.ffzg.hr> On Behalf Of Inja Cahun
> Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2018 2:35 PM
> To: "Katarina Starčević" <katarina.starcevic at gmail.com>
> Cc: OVisnja Novosel <visnja.novosel at ffzg.hr>; eventuse at mjesec.ffzg.hr
> Subject: Re: [knjiznica-eventuse] Bergman
>
> Heloo,
>
> šaljem nabrzake napravljene citate za iznad vitrina, ko stigne pliz neki
> komentar jer ne znam dal je ovak jednostavno predosadno ili baš to želim
> :/
>
> Katarina pliz onaj tamplate za poster sa zanimljivostima.
>
> Hvala :)
>
>
>> Inja,
>>
>> hvala za ovaj prijevod o ogledalima! :) Ja ću evo taj tekstpregledati
>> i posložiti s onim slikama iz članka :)
>>
>> Dana 9. svibnja 2018. u 14:49 Inja Cahun <icahun at ffzg.hr> je napisao/la:
>>
>>> Drage kolegice,
>>>
>>> nakon dogovora s Katarinom i Elvirom o citatima filmova za vitrine i
>>> okvire šaljem prijevode citata. Molim da to netko pregleda, jer baš
>>> nisam vična prevođenju (zeleno je ostao original).
>>>
>>> Za opis teme ogledala isto prilažem prijevod izvučenog konteksta iz
>>> onog linkanog teksta Behind the mirror, please čekirajte jel to zvuči
>>> ikak ;)
>>>
>>> očekujte greške, nisam pročitala baš sve još jednom :/
>>>
>>> Ja sam u petak tu, ali od pol 12 pa bar do nekih 15 me nema i onda se
>>> mogu vratiti na postavljanje.
>>>
>>> sutra sam dežurna na pultu i mogu rezuckati kaj god želite, al i
>>> vidimo se svakak na sastanku u 1 :)
>>>
>>> mah, mah do onda,
>>> Inja
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> >>> pronašli ste odlične stvari; sviđa mi se sve, nekako zbog
>>> >>> sigurnosti
>>> > sam za ovaj Lucijin prijedlog filmića.....  imamo zaista dovoljno
>>> > materijala za iskoristiti.... Sad to samo treba dobro organizirati
>>> > i prezentirati... možda filmove u dio vitrina, s pripadajućim
>>> > citatima, scenama i svime vezanim uz filmove... čak na rubove
>>> > vitrina možemo zalijepiti te scene iz filmova.... književnost na
>>> > drugu stranu s pripadajucim citatima, a njega i autobiografske
>>> > citate u okvire i ogledala razbacano....  ???
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Inja, ovo je diiiiivno :)
>>> >> što se tiče autorskih prava, za NOć knjige sam gledala da je CC -
>>> >> creative commons reuse allowed jer me bilo malo frka što se tiče
>>> >> standard
>>> youtube
>>> >> licence pa možda da tako filtriramo, ali svakako možemo još
>>> >> pogledati jer su ovi intervjui odlični.
>>> >> našla sam ovaj filmić
>>> >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YymZV83wPBk
>>> >>
>>> >> koji istražuje temu snova u filmovima na primjeru Bergmanovih
>>> >> Divljih jagoda, a ima cc licencu.
>>> >>
>>> >> i prilažem citate koje sam našla, a da su mi se činili fora. svi
>>> >> su kratki dosta, dva su o filmu i ima jedan gdje se spominje
>>> >> zrcalo :D
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> “Film as dream, film as music. No art passes our conscience
>>> >> in
>>> the
>>> >> way film does, and goes directly to our feelings, deep down into
>>> >> the dark rooms of our souls.”
>>> >>
>>> >> “I want to confess as best I can, but my heart is void. The
>>> void
>>> >> is
>>> >> a mirror. I see my face and feel loathing and horror. My
>>> >> indifference
>>> to
>>> >> man has shut me out. I live now in a world of ghosts, a prisoner
>>> >> in
>>> my
>>> >> dreams.”
>>> >> ― Ingmar Bergman, The Seventh Seal
>>> >>
>>> >> “To feel. To trust the feeling. I long for that”
>>> >> ― Ingmar Bergman, Face to Face: A Film
>>> >>
>>> >> “We make each other alive; it doesn't make a difference if
>>> >> it hurts.” ― Ingmar Bergman
>>> >>
>>> >> “Everyone likes happiness, no one likes pain. But you can't
>>> have a
>>> >> rainbow without a little rain.” ― Ingmar Bergman
>>> >>
>>> >> “Reality is perhaps not at all what I imagine. Perhaps it
>>> doesn't
>>> >> exist, in fact. Perhaps it only exists as a longing.”
>>> >> ― Ingmar Bergman, Face to Face: A Film
>>> >>
>>> >> “No form of art goes beyond ordinary consciousness as film
>>> does,
>>> >> straight to our emotions, deep into the twilight room of the
>>> >> soul.” ― Ingmar Bergman
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> BTW ovo sam poslala samo Luciji :)
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Hej curke,
>>> >>>
>>> >>> ideja s ogeldalima je genijalna!!
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Prilažem citate iz filmova i predlažem da vrtimo intervju s
>>> Bergmanom i
>>> >>> s
>>> >>> Allenom o Bergmanu na onom velikom TV-u. Linkovi u nastavku..
>>> >>>
>>> >>> I pitanje.. Ti njegovi filmovi su toliko lijepi i atmosferični
>>> >>> bilo
>>> bi
>>> >>> šteta te crno-bijele scene iz filmova ne izložiti kako bismo bar
>>> malo
>>> >>> prenijele atmosferu s filmova u prostor izložbe. ne znam jel to
>>> moguće
>>> >>> s
>>> >>> obzirom na pare i autroska prava..
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Wody Allen interview on Ingmar Bergman u 2 djela s isječcima iz
>>> fimova
>>> >>> i
>>> >>> s
>>> >>> engleskim:
>>> >>>
>>> >>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=npHqAO3hj54
>>> >>>
>>> >>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_ev-c4rINA
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Genijalni intervju s Ingmarom Bergmanom s komentarima novinara i
>>> >>> suradnika:
>>> >>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CLVLKQ8Nh_A
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Citati:
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Through a glass darkly:
>>> >>>
>>> >>> David: "I don't know whether love is proof of God's existence, or
>>> >>> if love is God.
>>> >>> Minus: For you, love and God are the same?
>>> >>> David: I rest my emptiness and my dirty hopelessness in that
>>> thought."
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Persona:
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Doctor: "...But you can refuse to move, refuse to talk, so that
>>> >>> you don't have to lie. You can shut yourself in. Then you needn't
>>> >>> play any
>>> parts
>>> >>> or
>>> >>> make wrong gestures. Or so you thought. But reality is diabolical.
>>> Your
>>> >>> hiding place isn't watertight. Life trickles in from the outside,
>>> and
>>> >>> you're forced to react. No one asks if it is true or false, if
>>> you're
>>> >>> genuine or just a sham. Such things matter only in the theatre,
>>> >>> and hardly there either. I understand why you don't speak, why
>>> >>> you don't move,
>>> why
>>> >>> you've created a part for yourself out of apathy..."
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Alma: "Is it really important not to lie, to speak so that
>>> everything
>>> >>> rings true? Can one live without lying and quibbling and making
>>> >>> excuses?
>>> >>> Isn't it better to be lazy and lax and deceitful? Perhaps you
>>> >>> even improve by staying as you are."
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Wild strawberries:
>>> >>>
>>> >>> "Isak: Now take the cigar. Cigars are an expression of the
>>> fundamental
>>> >>> idea of smoking. A stimulant and a relaxation. A manly vice.
>>> >>> Marianne: And what vices may a woman have?
>>> >>> Isak: Crying, bearing children, and gossiping about the neighbours.
>>> >>> Marianne: How old are you, Uncle Isak?
>>> >>> Isak: Why do you ask?
>>> >>> Marianne: No reason, really. Why?
>>> >>> Isak: I know why you're asking.
>>> >>> Marianne: If you say so"
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Cousin Sara: "Have you looked in the mirror, Isak? You haven't.
>>> >>> Then I'll show you what you look like.  You're a worried old man
>>> >>> who's soon
>>> going
>>> >>> to
>>> >>> die."
>>> >>>  ...
>>> >>> Cousin Sara: "That hurt your feelings, alfetr all."
>>> >>> Isak: "No, it didn't hurt.
>>> >>> Cousin Sara: "Yes, it hurt because you can't bear the truth."
>>> >>> ...
>>> >>> Cousin Sara:"Look in the mirror again. No, dont turn away."
>>> >>>
>>> >>> The Seventh seal:
>>> >>> Block: "I want knowledge. Not belief. Not surmise. But knowledge.
>>> >>> I want God to put out His hand, show His face, speak to me."
>>> >>> Priest/Death: "But He is silent."
>>> >>> Block: "I cry to Him in the dark, but there seems to be no one
>>> there."
>>> >>> Priest/Death: "Perhaps there is no one there."
>>> >>> Block: "Then life is a senseless terror. No man can live with
>>> >>> Death
>>> and
>>> >>> know that everything is nothing."
>>> >>> Priest/Death: "Most people think neither of Death nor nothingness."
>>> >>> Block: "Until they stand on the edge of life and see the Darkness."
>>> >>> Priest/Death: "Ah, that day."
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>> Odlične sličke i svakako citati samog Bergmana :)
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>> https://www.brainyquote.com/authors/ingmar_bergman
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> https://images.search.yahoo.com/search/images;_ylt=
>>> AwrE19erN_Ba2CMAUdVXNyoA;_ylu=X3oDMTByMjB0aG5zBGNvbG8DYmYxBH
>>> BvcwMxBHZ0aWQDBHNlYwNzYw--?p=ingmar+bergman+movie+quotes#
>>> id=105&iurl=https%3A%2F%2Fs-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com%
>>> 2F736x%2F3a%2Ff0%2F4d%2F3af04d93ecd21682d92c28369756086d.jpg&action=c
>>> lose
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> ovih slika i citata ima puno! A i svaki je dobar, mislim da
>>> >>>>> ćemo imati hrpu materijala.
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> Ivana Kukić, dipl.knjiž.
>>> >>>>> Knjižnica Filozofskog fakulteta, zbirka za psihologiju
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> Tel: 01/409-2246
>>> >>>>> mail: ikukic at ffzg.hr
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> 2018-05-06 9:49 GMT+02:00 <lklanac at ffzg.hr>:
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>>> > super, ja se predvecer bacam na citate.ugodna nedjelja svima
>>> >>>>>> > :)
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>> Odlično, Persona je sigurna, pitanje je samo hoće li ići Sedmi
>>> pečat
>>> >>>>>> ili
>>> >>>>>> > Divlje jagode. Onda ću ja pogledati onaj dokumentarc koji
>>> >>>>>> > ide
>>> >>>>>> zadnji
>>> >>>>>> > tjedan.
>>> >>>>>> > V.
>>> >>>>>> >
>>> >>>>>> >
>>> >>>>>> >  Ivana je uzela Sedmi pečat, Irena Personu, ja Divlje jagode.
>>> >>>>>> Odlučile
>>> >>>>>> smo
>>> >>>>>> >> se za ove koji će se (možda) prikazivati!
>>> >>>>>> >>
>>> >>>>>> >> sub, 5. svi 2018. 08:14 Visnja Novosel
>>> <visnja.novosel at ffzg.hr>
>>> >>>>>> je
>>> >>>>>> >> napisao:
>>> >>>>>> >>
>>> >>>>>> >>> Hej,
>>> >>>>>> >>> hoćete javiti tko gleda koji film, ja imam doma sve koje
>>> imamo u
>>> >>>>>> >>> knjižnici
>>> >>>>>> >>> pa mogu bilo koji.
>>> >>>>>> >>> Višnja
>>> >>>>>> >>>
>>> >>>>>> >>>
>>> >>>>>> >>>  ja onda krivo skužila :D
>>> >>>>>> >>> >
>>> >>>>>> >>> >  ma ja sam mislila jedan tekst tekst kraj okvira (ne u
>>> okvire)
>>> >>>>>> da
>>> >>>>>> >>> stoji
>>> >>>>>> >>> da
>>> >>>>>> >>> >> ih objasnimo, da ne poslažemo samo okvire okolo pa da
>>> >>>>>> >>> >> se
>>> oni
>>> >>>>>> pitaju
>>> >>>>>> >>> šta
>>> >>>>>> >>> >> to
>>> >>>>>> >>> >> predstavlja.
>>> >>>>>> >>> >>
>>> >>>>>> >>> >> Dana 4. svibnja 2018. u 18:01 <lklanac at ffzg.hr> je
>>> >>>>>> napisao/la:
>>> >>>>>> >>> >>
>>> >>>>>> >>> >>> > ja možda čak ne bih tekstove tamo nego radije uz
>>> izložbu.
>>> >>>>>> nekak
>>> >>>>>> >>> imam
>>> >>>>>> >>> >>> osjećaj da se neće baš zaustavljati i gledati gore i
>>> čitati
>>> >>>>>> >>> tekstove.
>>> >>>>>> >>> >>> radije neke citate u okvire?
>>> >>>>>> >>> >>>
>>> >>>>>> >>> >>>  Da, da! Okviri koji vise s prvog kata u prizemlje! :)
>>> >>>>>> >>> >>> I
>>> >>>>>> onda
>>> >>>>>> mogu
>>> >>>>>> >>> >>> stati
>>> >>>>>> >>> >>> u
>>> >>>>>> >>> >>> > njih, s bilo koje strane - okviri predstavljaju
>>> >>>>>> >>> >>> > zrcala,
>>> >>>>>> kameru,
>>> >>>>>> >>> >>> svašta
>>> >>>>>> >>> >>> se
>>> >>>>>> >>> >>> > tu može vidjeti i dodati :) I na sajlu nekoliko i
>>> >>>>>> >>> >>> > tamo možda neki tekst vezan uu
>>> >>>>>> Bergmana,
>>> >>>>>> >>> >>> zrcala,
>>> >>>>>> >>> >>> > okvire.. :) odlično!
>>> >>>>>> >>> >>> >
>>> >>>>>> >>> >>> > Dana 4. svibnja 2018. u 17:38 Elvira Gotal
>>> >>>>>> <egotal at ffzg.hr>
>>> >>>>>> je
>>> >>>>>> >>> >>> napisao/la:
>>> >>>>>> >>> >>> >
>>> >>>>>> >>> >>> >> >>> ideja okvira bi se mogla razraditi detaljnije.
>>> >>>>>> >>> >>> >> >>> i
>>> >>>>>> simbolično.
>>> >>>>>> >>> kao
>>> >>>>>> >>> >>> >> okviri, prizori, ogledala, ekrani. okviri bi mogli
>>> >>>>>> visjeti
>>> >>>>>> s
>>> >>>>>> >>> prvog
>>> >>>>>> >>> >>> >> kata i sa sajla i di god, u okvirima se mogu
>>> >>>>>> >>> >>> >> slikati i
>>> >>>>>> gledati
>>> >>>>>> >>> jedni
>>> >>>>>> >>> >>> >> druge. iskrivljavati ili uokvirivati stvarnost. na
>>> >>>>>> okvirima
>>> >>>>>> >>> mogle
>>> >>>>>> >>> bi
>>> >>>>>> >>> >>> >> biti bergmanove rečenice. iz njegove autobiografije.
>>> >>>>>> okvire
>>> >>>>>> lako
>>> >>>>>> >>> >>> >> izrežemo iz raznoraznih starih postera......
>>> >>>>>> >>> >>> >>
>>> >>>>>> >>> >>> >> npr. Ritam mojih filmova zamišljan je već u
>>> >>>>>> >>> >>> >> scenariju,
>>> za
>>> >>>>>> >>> pisaćim
>>> >>>>>> >>> >>> >> stolom,
>>> >>>>>> >>> >>> >> a rađao se pred kamerama. Svaka improvizacija meni
>>> >>>>>> >>> >>> >> je
>>> >>>>>> strana.
>>> >>>>>> >>> ili
>>> >>>>>> >>> >>> >>
>>> >>>>>> >>> >>> >> Stvorio sam u sebi neku vanjsku osobnost koja je
>>> >>>>>> >>> >>> >> imala
>>> >>>>>> vrlo
>>> >>>>>> malo
>>> >>>>>> >>> >>> veze
>>> >>>>>> >>> >>> s
>>> >>>>>> >>> >>> >> mojim „istinskim“ ja.
>>> >>>>>> >>> >>> >>
>>> >>>>>> >>> >>> >> meni se jako sviđa problematika zrcala... možda bi
>>> mogli
>>> >>>>>> >>> posložiti
>>> >>>>>> >>> >>> samo
>>> >>>>>> >>> >>> >> > okvire. kao simbolika zrcala i odraza....
>>> >>>>>> >>> >>> >> >
>>> >>>>>> >>> >>> >> >
>>> >>>>>> >>> >>> >> >
>>> >>>>>> >>> >>> >> >  ko pobijedi u šahu,  dobiva sat vremena druženja
>>> >>>>>> >>> >>> >> > s
>>> >>>>>> lubanjom u
>>> >>>>>> >>> >>> samici.
>>> >>>>>> >>> >>> >> >>
>>> >>>>>> >>> >>> >> >> uh.
>>> >>>>>> >>> >>> >> >>
>>> >>>>>> >>> >>> >> >>
>>> >>>>>> >>> >>> >> >>
>>> >>>>>> >>> >>> >> >> super mi je ovo za šah!!
>>> >>>>>> >>> >>> >> >>>  ono što je meni palo na pamet - iako ne znam
>>> koliko
>>> >>>>>> bi
>>> >>>>>> se
>>> >>>>>> >>> baš
>>> >>>>>> >>> >>> >> >>> uklopilo
>>> >>>>>> >>> >>> >> >>> da i sad uzmemo "blind date", tj. neke knjige
>>> >>>>>> zapakiramo
>>> >>>>>> u
>>> >>>>>> >>> pak
>>> >>>>>> >>> >>> papir
>>> >>>>>> >>> >>> >> i
>>> >>>>>> >>> >>> >> >>> na
>>> >>>>>> >>> >>> >> >>> njih stavimo neke njegove citate i zalijepimo
>>> >>>>>> >>> >>> >> >>> ili
>>> >>>>>> nacrtamo
>>> >>>>>> >>> >>> motive.
>>> >>>>>> >>> >>> >> >>>
>>> >>>>>> >>> >>> >> >>>
>>> >>>>>> >>> >>> >> >>> bravo!
>>> >>>>>> >>> >>> >> >>>>
>>> >>>>>> >>> >>> >> >>>>
>>> >>>>>> >>> >>> >> >>>>
>>> >>>>>> >>> >>> >> >>>> uvijek je dobro imati inicijalni sastanak J
>>> >>>>>> >>> >>> >> >>>> onda
>>> >>>>>> ideje
>>> >>>>>> samo
>>> >>>>>> >>> >>> pocnu
>>> >>>>>> >>> >>> >> >>>> kuljati
>>> >>>>>> >>> >>> >> >>>> J
>>> >>>>>> >>> >>> >> >>>>
>>> >>>>>> >>> >>> >> >>>>
>>> >>>>>> >>> >>> >> >>>>
>>> >>>>>> >>> >>> >> >>>> From: Eventuse
>>> >>>>>> >>> >>> >> >>>> <eventuse-bounces at mjesec.ffzg.hr>
>>> On
>>> >>>>>> Behalf
>>> >>>>>> >>> Of
>>> >>>>>> >>> >>> >> Višnja
>>> >>>>>> >>> >>> >> >>>> Novosel
>>> >>>>>> >>> >>> >> >>>> Sent: Friday, May 4, 2018 3:43 PM
>>> >>>>>> >>> >>> >> >>>> To: eventuse at mjesec.ffzg.hr
>>> >>>>>> >>> >>> >> >>>> Subject: Re: [knjiznica-eventuse] Bergman
>>> >>>>>> >>> >>> >> >>>>
>>> >>>>>> >>> >>> >> >>>>
>>> >>>>>> >>> >>> >> >>>>
>>> >>>>>> >>> >>> >> >>>> Imam još jednu ideju ? da zovemo šahiste na
>>> >>>>>> >>> >>> >> >>>> faksu
>>> i
>>> >>>>>> >>> >>> organiziramo
>>> >>>>>> >>> >>> >> neku
>>> >>>>>> >>> >>> >> >>>> prezentaciju šaha? U prizemlju?
>>> >>>>>> >>> >>> >> >>>>
>>> >>>>>> >>> >>> >> >>>> :-D
>>> >>>>>> >>> >>> >> >>>>
>>> >>>>>> >>> >>> >> >>>> Tek su mi počele padati ideje na pamet
>>> >>>>>> >>> >>> >> >>>>
>>> >>>>>> >>> >>> >> >>>>
>>> >>>>>> >>> >>> >> >>>>
>>> >>>>>> >>> >>> >> >>>> From: Eventuse
>>> >>>>>> >>> >>> >> >>>> <eventuse-bounces at mjesec.ffzg.hr
>>> >>>>>> >>> >>> >> >>>> <mailto:eventuse-bounces at mjesec.ffzg.hr> > On
>>> Behalf
>>> >>>>>> Of
>>> >>>>>> >>> >>> Katarina
>>> >>>>>> >>> >>> >> >>>> Starčević
>>> >>>>>> >>> >>> >> >>>> Sent: Friday, May 4, 2018 3:25 PM
>>> >>>>>> >>> >>> >> >>>> To: eventuse at mjesec.ffzg.hr
>>> >>>>>> >>> <mailto:eventuse at mjesec.ffzg.hr>
>>> >>>>>> >>> >>> >> >>>> Subject: [knjiznica-eventuse] Bergman
>>> >>>>>> >>> >>> >> >>>>
>>> >>>>>> >>> >>> >> >>>>
>>> >>>>>> >>> >>> >> >>>>
>>> >>>>>> >>> >>> >> >>>> Hej, hej!
>>> >>>>>> >>> >>> >> >>>>
>>> >>>>>> >>> >>> >> >>>>
>>> >>>>>> >>> >>> >> >>>>
>>> >>>>>> >>> >>> >> >>>> Malo kopala po netu i naišla na slike iz
>>> >>>>>> >>> >>> >> >>>> "Divljih
>>> >>>>>> jagoda" i
>>> >>>>>> >>> na
>>> >>>>>> >>> >>> >> >>>> nekoliko
>>> >>>>>> >>> >>> >> >>>> njih žena drži ogledalo - mogli bismo i
>>> >>>>>> >>> >>> >> >>>> ogledalce
>>> >>>>>> staviti u
>>> >>>>>> >>> >>> jednu
>>> >>>>>> >>> >>> >> od
>>> >>>>>> >>> >>> >> >>>> vitrina :)
>>> >>>>>> >>> >>> >> >>>>
>>> >>>>>> >>> >>> >> >>>>
>>> >>>>>> >>> >>> >> >>>>
>>> >>>>>> >>> >>> >> >>>> A onda sam otišla i korak dalje i vidjela
>>> >>>>>> >>> >>> >> >>>> cijelu
>>> >>>>>> >>> problematiku
>>> >>>>>> >>> >>> >> zrcala
>>> >>>>>> >>> >>> >> >>>> vezanu uz Bergmana
>>> >>>>>> >>> >>> >> >>>> (http://www.ingmarbergman.se/
>>> en/universe/behind-mirror)
>>> >>>>>> >>> >>> >> >>>> pa bacam bubu u uho, možda nekom još nešto
>>> >>>>>> >>> >>> >> >>>> padne
>>> >>>>>> vezano
>>> >>>>>> uz
>>> >>>>>> >>> >>> >> zrcala...
>>> >>>>>> >>> >>> >> >>>>
>>> >>>>>> >>> >>> >> >>>>
>>> >>>>>> >>> >>> >> >>>>
>>> >>>>>> >>> >>> >> >>>> Pozdrav!
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